Manny Rabby Convergence

April 19, 2015

glmanny:

Flashback to an analysis of the Manny Rabby Convergence.

Originally posted on Glmanny's Blog:

We’re coming up on a critical part of the story in the episode guides. Frankly on the Manny side this is all Joie Lenz’s fault (not Michelle or Danny’s) because Joie was leaving and TPTB wanted Manny broken up so they could start again with the new person and ultimately get a wedding they could flashback to again with the current Michelle. So Danny gets sucked back towards a life of violence and the mob and Michelle starts making a lot of uncharacteristic moves that add up to her walking out on Danny for no convincing reason when she knew better than anybody what that would do to him and it isn’t like her life had been violence free. Sadly there will be little enough of the Manny we love from here on out until Nancy St. Alban arrives. I recently posted what is about the last true in spirit…

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Jesse Doesn’t Want to Go Back

April 18, 2015

glmanny:

Why Jesse held on to Michelle for so long.

Originally posted on Glmanny's Blog:

In this clip, Jesse is talking to Michelle after the fire at Reva’s. Jesse and Michelle are currently dating. Michelle had been caught in the fire started by a Molatov cocktail thrown by a group of thug ex-friends of Jesse’s getting revenge on them for “what they did to Roy.” Michelle’s eyes were damaged in the fire. Michelle had the bandages removed and claimed she could see to keep Jesse from staying with her out of sympathy. This scene is while she is in the hospital and Jesse doesn’t know that she is really blind.

I think what Jesse says after Michelle says she can see is really revealing. He says Michelle has made him a different person and he doesn’t want to go back to being the guy he was before. I think maybe this is why he fights his feelings for Drew for so long. He’s really afraid…

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The Bullets Match Danny Is Arrested June 12-13 2001

April 17, 2015

Tues., June 12, 2001 – Gus tells Harley that he has some big news. He tells her that the ballistics report show that Danny’s gun killed Carmen. He has Danny where he wants him and he will be able to put him in prison soon. Harley can’t believe Danny killed Carmen. Gus tells her that the marks on the bullet are as unique as fingerprints, he did it and Gus knew it all along. Harley tells him that she doesn’t buy it; Danny was trying to go straight. Gus tells Harley that Danny killed his mother. He thinks back to when he shot Danny’s gun in the Bauer home. Harley asks if Gus has a warrant. He tells her he doesn’t yet but he will and then he will be able to arrest Danny. Michelle comes to see Gus. She tells him she heard he is in the mood to make deals and she is ready to help. He asks what she has in mind and she tells him that she has information about Maria and Carlos and all she wants is to keep Danny out of jail. Gus tells her that he will make that deal when hell freezes over. Gus tells Michelle that he is no longer interested in anyone but Danny. He thanks her for the offer but tells her that there is no deal. She leaves. Claire comes in and Michelle tells her to get out. Claire tells Michelle that she thinks she has found a way out for them. Michelle is angry and tells her again to get out. Claire tells her that she was only trying to help her and asks how she could be willing for Robbie to be without his mother for 10 or 15 years. Michelle asks if this way out has Danny covered as well because if it doesn’t, she isn’t interested and as far as she is concerned Claire can rot in jail herself. Claire tells Michelle that Gus can’t force her to testify against herself without a deal. She tells Michelle that she is trying to get him to extend immunity to Michelle as well. Michelle tells her that she wants nothing to do with her. She walks over to the door and opens it for Claire to leave. Tony is there about to knock. He is upset and asks if he can see Danny. Michelle tells him that everyone in Springfield think the Santos family is the only family that turns on each other but it isn’t true. She tells Tony that her mother, pointing to Claire, betrayed Danny and her by working with Gus and wearing a wire. Tony can’t believe it and stares at Claire. He asks why she would sell Danny out. He tells her that she is as low as a person can get. Claire tells him that people like him sell each other out all the time. She tells Tony that she saved Danny. Michelle tells Claire that Tony saved Danny as well. Tony tells Claire that in his world people like her end up dead. She argues with Tony and he tells her that he doesn’t have to put up with self-righteous people like her and she had better get out. Claire turns to Michelle who tells her she shouldn’t have come there in the first place. Claire leaves. Tony is upset and apologizes to Michelle for talking to Claire like that. She tells him he just beat her to it.

Wed., June 13, 2001 – At the Bauer House: Michelle is having breakfast with Rick and Danny. She is wondering why they haven’t heard from Gus lately. Buzz calls from Company to ask Michelle if she left her blue scarf there. She says it isn’t hers, but it’s too late, Buzz has spilled the beans to Rick who as a matter of course passes the information on to Danny. But she doesn’t deny talking to Gus, even though the most important men in her life take it badly. Danny and Rick want to know what that was about and she reluctantly tells them that she was trying to offer Gus a deal. She was going to give him Maria and Carlos if he would leave Danny alone. Danny already realized that Gus is only after him and she should stay away from him. Danny is scared Michelle had a plan and would do such a thing, reminding her how she had left evidence against herself the last time she tried to do something. Michelle tells Danny that she doesn’t want to lose him and when he threatened to turn himself in to keep her out of trouble, she strongly objects and will turn herself in with a confession if he does. Michelle has to leave to attend to Robbie leaving Rick and Danny alone. Danny tells Rick he may need his assistance dealing with Michelle. He says he will turn himself in rather than let Michelle go to jail. He apologizes for getting the family into this but Rick says Danny IS family and he supports him. He tells Danny that he doesn’t deserve what is happening to him either. Tony comes in and tells Danny Josh fired him (over a trumped up charge when Tony was doing really well and connecting with Billy, but Josh Lewis is a Jerk) and he needs to have his old hours back at Inferno. Tony admits he punched out Vince Russo (who I’m sure deserved it), but is very loud towards Michelle and Rick too feeling that “people like them” look down on people like him.” Danny: “Hey,hey  don’t talk to them like that, they don’t deserve it. They’re on your side.” Danny and Tony go outside to talk and he tells Tony that Rick and Michelle are on their side as far as the feds go, but he wonders what happened with Marah. Would Marah continue to support Tony or would she dump him or worse turn on him? Tony doesn’t really want to rehash it anymore than to ask for the extra hours. Danny tells him that he knows how he feels about Marah and he is worried about Tony. Danny tells him that if Marah is the right girl it will work out but either way he should stay cool. He tells Tony that he should get out of there and he goes back inside. Michelle is worried about Tony as well and tells Danny to invite him to the BBQ that evening to cheer him up. Just then Gus knocks on the door and arrests Danny for the murder of Carmen. He reads him his rights and Danny tells Michelle to call Ross. As they are cuffing Danny, Gus sees Tony and arrests him as well for the assault on Russo. The police and Gus take them away. Gus: “This ugly face of yours, save it for somebody else.  Take a look around you, Danny. Take a look at the trees on the way to prison and take a deep breath because it’s the last breath that you’re get in this miserable unimportant life of yours.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9SbXjBvrtc (just a couple of minutes then it flips over)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZDhX2YhwSA&feature=PlayList&p=D1B0506BAFFF0F2C&index=59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf7yRb3vBc8&feature=PlayList&p=D1B0506BAFFF0F2C&index=60

My Comments:

This is a great time period for Michelle clothing style. I just love these outfits. Really ever since she gave birth. I still don’t know why Gus never referenced the fact Michelle was going to bring down the Santos family and met with FBI agents around the time of their second marriage. It HAS to be in her FBI file. Also, Michelle should have reported all of Gus’s behavior, especially THIS to Gus’s boss. Not being motivated by personal vendetta, his boss might have taken the deal. I’m glad Harley is at least standing up for Danny and Michelle. She really should know there is more to the story – she trusted them to watch her kids! Michelle always needs to tell Danny everything. Things always go wrong when they aren’t truthful to each other.

This is great so many ways. First, the Bauer/Santoses are sitting down to breakfast together and it’s informal and family like. Then we have a nice example of Michelle trying to face the problem heads on. We have her finally and unwillingly confessing. We have Michelle and Danny each being willing to sacrifice themselves for each other. You have Rick supporting Danny. All great stuff. I linked to Josh is a Jerk above, but it’s still true and short sighted on Josh’s part. Sorry we don’t have more of the Tony/Danny/Marah from this part of the story. Once again while I’m grateful I find clippers rather myopic. Actually Gus would have to literally read Danny his rights because the supreme court has ruled that no matter how many times they’ve said it, the officer’s memory that they said all their Miranda Rights can’t be trusted on its own. 

Nice Bloss moment. I wish they had expanded that too.

Robansuefarm is the handle of one of Manny and Guiding Light‘s biggest fans following in her family’s footsteps of Guiding Light fandom since 1939. This blog is an effort to make it easy to find Guiding Light and especially Manny online. Check back here for her blog, find fanfic previews and fake WSPR newscasts on her YouTube, find podcasts that look back to old shows and audios of her fanfics on Blog Talk Radio, and finally follow her on Twitter and Facebook.

Harley and Frank Meet Buzz

April 16, 2015

frank-cooper It’s Eleni Andros and Frank Cooper’s wedding on 5th Street:

https://glmanny.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/eleni-and-frank-wedding

A shifty man with an earring and an accent shows up and is overly interested in Frank and Harley. Harley IDs Buzz as a man who hit Mallet on the head while he was riffling a storeroom and Mallet almost caught him. Something else entirely is going on and Harley pulls a gun Buzz knows isn’t loaded to prove her point. Just then Eleni went into labor. With Mallet’s prompting Harley realized “Rex Marcini” is really Buzz Cooper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73c76okKiVc

After their conversation both Harley and Buzz end up at the hospital where Eleni has just given birth to Marina. This clip is made up of scenes from several days. After the Frank-Buzz confrontation they shift to happy Eleni-Frank stuff. Marina Nadine Cooper was born on screen on May 8, 1993. Frank doesn’t seem to realize who Buzz is, but lets Buzz hold Marina.Buzz: “I have two kids.” (So Lucy doesn’t count? I know she wasn’t invented yet.) That is a nice Frank-Buzz story Buzz tells and frankly before that cut face to face I wouldn’t have said they locked a like, but zoomed in on the faces like that, they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2fAKLG1aDw

Robansuefarm is the handle of one of Manny and Guiding Light‘s biggest fans following in her family’s footsteps of Guiding Light fandom since 1939. This blog is an effort to make it easy to find Guiding Light and especially Manny online. Check back here for her blog, find fanfic previews and fake WSPR newscasts on her YouTube, find podcasts that look back to old shows and audios of her fanfics on Blog Talk Radio, and finally follow her on Twitter and Facebook.

Love Scene

April 12, 2015

glmanny:

I shared the link for this earlier this week and so I thought I’d revisit it tonight. It held up well so basically I’m just adding a signature block.

Originally posted on Glmanny's Blog:

Every Friday night I post another term of soap opera jargon. Check out the Soap Opera Jargon page for more.

Love Scene – Love scenes are one of the most important elements of a soap. Most fans are always wanting more love scenes for their favorite couple. A love scene is basically a sex scene, but must have a strong element of romance as well. How much nudity is involved depends on the exact set up. Actors and actresses are often given a few weeks warning, so they can put in extra time at the gym or on a diet to get in shape because they normally have to show quite a bit of skin.

While love scenes always were occasionally set in exotic locations (the backs of limos, in swimming pools, etc.), previously they were mostly set in the bedroom. For the set up of these scenes props would…

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Trish Lewis Leaves Town

April 8, 2015
Trish Lewis

Trish Lewis

It’s November 1985 and Patricia “Trish” Lewis is leaving town because she got a PR job with Spaulding out of town that was supposed to take two months. It will end up being more like two decades. Trish would sometimes be mentioned in terms of Billy and Josh’s childhood, not where she is now. Even Marah and Shayne who were frequently sent out of town to stay with an off-camera Uncle Rusty, they never visited an off-camera Aunt Trish.

Although you wouldn’t think it from later storylines, Trish was the first Lewis to come to Springfield. Her immediate connections were with Vanessa Chamberlain who was an old friend (although Vanessa had never met Billy) and Holly’s younger ne’er-do-well brother, Andy Norris. Norris was her ex-husband who had been a gold digger who took all of Trish’s money and 1/2 million dollars of Lewis family money. It was Trish’s initial infatuation with Andy that lead to her estrangement from her family. It was Trish’s problem with her father that was copied when Josh and Billy came to town. Trish’s affair with Alan was one of the last straws that broke his and Hope’s marriage. Trish worked as Ross’ campaign manager and was part of the story when Alan had cocaine planted in Ross’ car to get him out of the DA office.

Although for a time she ran a bar she got from Andy in the divorce, Trish’s main job was in PR. This let her easily move between business stories and political stories as needed. It really was a great gimmick and one the show would later exploit with Blake Thorpe Spaulding Marler.

For some background this sequence was before the big reveal about the true parentage of Billy and Kyle. Despite what various characters believe at this moment Kyle is NOT H.B.’s son. It was Kyle’s belief that H.B. was the father who abandoned him and his desire to get revenge that is driving his actions. To learn more about that check the link to the post below the video. Billy and Vanessa as you can see are marvelously happy right now. Trish and Ross had been dating, but broke up over her continual habit of putting her family before him (to which I say “Ross, grow up!”) and his knowledge that she had an affair with Alan.

They played up the drama in this sequence with Trish going back and forth about leaving, but that waffling really was typical of Trish. When it’s decided Trish will definitely go, Vanessa gives Trish a blank travel diary and Billy gives Trish Miss Martha’s cameo. Miss Martha had said Billy should give it to his wife, but Vanilly had discussed it and decided it should go to Trish.

Billy revealed to be Miss Sally’s biological son instead of Miss Martha’s (Kyle is his half-brother through Miss Sally):
https://glmanny.wordpress.com/2013/01/23/reva-jumps-off-bridge-kyle-and-maeve-wed-billy-learns-miss-sally-is-his-mother

Here are some of Trish’s important dates in Springfield.

  • Trish came to town – August 1981
  • Trish left town – November 1985
  • Trish returns for one day – September 11, 1997 for H.B.’s funeral (note this was before WTC attack so date no real world significance)
  • Trish comes back for Jeva’s 2002 wedding: Jeva on Wedding Story on TLC – June 7 – 11, 2002
    https://glmanny.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/jeva-wedding-on-tlc
  • Trish is last reported on screen living in Paris, France.

If you’d like to learn more about Trish and her time in the spotlight of Springfield, check out her profile:
http://soapcentral.com/gl/whoswho/patricia.php

Robansuefarm is the handle of one of Manny and Guiding Light‘s biggest fans following in her family’s footsteps of Guiding Light fandom since 1939. This blog is an effort to make it easy to find Guiding Light and especially Manny online. Check back here for her blog, find fanfic previews and fake WSPR newscasts on her YouTube, find podcasts that look back to old shows and audios of her fanfics on Blog Talk Radio, and finally follow her on Twitter and Facebook.

Claire Is Furious June 8 2001

April 7, 2015

Lakeland Country Club LogoFri., June 8, 2001 – At the Lakeland County Club Bar, Claire is at the bar and calls Allan’s attorney Russo and tells him to get to the Country Club pronto. She’s angry and tells him that she took his advice to wear the wire, worked her butt off to get Danny to confess. Danny found the wire, she got kicked out, her daughter hates her again and that the FBI won’t accept the deal. She goes on to tell him that Mr. Spaulding will not be happy about this when he returns. Rick shows up at the bar and asks Claire isn’t she too old for the prom. She tells him not to be annoying. She tells him to get on with it. He asks what. She replies that she knows he has something to say about what she did to the family mobster. Rick wants to know what she did now. She explains that Gus has proof that Michelle burned the files and that he can use it to send Michelle to jail. Rick wants to know how Claire knows this. She explains her deal she made with Gus and tells Rick about wearing the wire. She tells him about Danny finding the wire and how things have gone from bad to worse. The two of them trade several insults. Claire explains that all she ever wanted to do is help Michelle. Rick is angry and tells her that sending Danny to prison for life is not exactly helping Michelle. Claire asks when Rick jumped on Danny’s bandwagon. Rick doesn’t answer the question but wants to know where things stand now. Claire says that she thinks that Gus is using Michelle for bait. She also says that the Feds want Danny not Michelle. Alan’s attorney walks in. Claire tells Rick to leave. As he leaves, Rick tells Claire not to forget her priority — save yourself.

Sorry no clips of this exact thing that I’ve found. This is more fall out from previous scenes although Rick versus Claire would be well worth seeing. Since I don’t have much to comment about here, I will expand that the actor who plays lawyer Vince Russo is the real life husband of Crystal Chappell’s aka Olivia Spencer’s husband. He is a soap hopper in his own right and will appear as Russo occassionally for the next few years when a slimy or extra lawyer is needed around town. I think he must have enjoyed it. He stops just short of mustache twirling. :)

Newspaper Update From a Collector

April 6, 2015

IMG_0001If you are a regular reader of this blog or my Twitter account (@Robansuefarm) , you’ll know I’ve long desired to have a copy, any copy of the Springfield Journal. In my quest I purchased copies of the Geona City Chronicle and the Port Charles Herald. Comparing the two I realized they had to be made by the same company or at least in the identical way because the filler was exactly the same. Now I know what to watch for I’ve seen the same filler on other shows. The same filler appeared as the Hazzard County Gazette in a 2nd season episode of The Dukes of Hazzard shot in 1980 and since the ones I purchased were from the 2000s they’ve been using the same filler for a long time. Check out the photos in the Port Charles Herald post and look for the filler yourself. I’d love comments about the spottings.

That’s where it was resting for awhile when out of the blue I got a very kind message from a person who collects these kind of newspapers and other props. He’s given me permission to publish his message here:

 Hi, I found your January post about the prop newspapers. I collect props and can offer some info about them. Most of the newspapers in movies and TV shows today are usually created by a prop house called ‘The Earl Hays Press’ which is located in Sun Valley near Los Angeles, CA. They also make most of the custom printed paper props for the same productions, which may include signs, generic food or product packaging and labels, license plates, magazine and book covers, matchbooks, stationery, or any other custom printed material you could think of. They create these to avoid copyright issues with real companies. The filler newspaper’s inside page format was first used in the late 1980s. As late as 1985-1988 there was an older version of the inside pages in use, which had no text and alternate headlines. The inside pages were always a complete fabrication made from many combined elements. Some real headline plates recycled from old newspapers were mixed in with the fake stuff. The back page was consistent all the way back into the mid/late 1970s as can be seen by its use in ‘The Dukes of Hazzard’. Some time in the early 2000s, this back page was modified slightly, probably due to wear/damage to the original printing elements which were very old by this time. Also, the back page template was made from a real newspaper plate from San Francisco dated April of 1971. Hope this info helps! You can also google ‘recurring prop newspaper’ for more info about this particular prop. – Hill Valley Telegraph

Here is the Earl Hays Press website:
http://www.theearlhayspress.com/
Always wanted a fake bookcover with your name on it or beer or anything else? Looks like for the right price you can have it.

Here’s a news story about them with screen capture examples:
http://news.moviefone.com/2010/06/09/story-behind-that-reoccuring-prop-newspaper

And remember keep an eye out for that Springfield Journal for me!

Robansuefarm is the handle of one of Manny and Guiding Light‘s biggest fans following in her family’s footsteps of Guiding Light fandom since 1939. This blog is an effort to make it easy to find Guiding Light and especially Manny online. Check back here for her blog, find fanfic previews and fake WSPR newscasts on her YouTube, find podcasts that look back to old shows and audios of her fanfics on Blog Talk Radio, and finally follow her on Twitter and Facebook.

What’s Going on Here?

April 4, 2015

When I started this blog, I assumed people would start at the beginning and follow along. It doesn’t look like that is actually how people are using the site, so I thought it might be helpful to explain again my plan and what I’m posting.

This blog is specifically about the best soap couple ever, Michelle Bauer and Danny Santos and more generally about the storied soap opera Guiding Light as a whole, with a little general soap opera stuff thrown in.  I am currently posting blog posts that are episode descriptions of the Manny story (complete with quotes and comments) and links to the best version of the Manny scenes I’ve found on YouTube. I’m trying to post them in natural breaks and that usually ends up being 2 or 3 episodes a post and I try to do an episode guide post about twice a week. It’s less when real life intervenes. After I post a description post I copy it, without the comments, in chronological order onto the pages under “Manny Clips-Episode Guide.” I’s broken into sections so that the pages aren’t too long and to help you find specific parts of the story easier. You can follow the story either through the blog posts or on the pages. If I find better quality video links I update it on the pages only. I’ve been slow on episode guide posts lately, but hopefully that will change soon.

In between these episode guide posts, I post other information about Guiding Light, my personal theories about Manny, and Guiding Light history and memories. Among my GL history projects is a list of “Dates in Springfield” and a list of “Couple Codes” aka smoosh names for Springfield couples. As background for the Manny story is a list of supporting characters with descriptions about their history and how they fit into the Manny story. Another part of this project is to create a Gazetteer or places in Springfield. I post the descriptions of the place, hopefully with a link to a video that shows it. Once I post these descriptions, I add them to the “Places of Springfield” page. Every Friday night, I post a definition of a term in soap opera jargon. After I post it, I put it on the “Soap Opera Jargon” page.

As I got further into Manny fandom, I got interested in Manny fanfiction. I’ve put together a “Story Index” where I divided the stories into categories and put a description and link to each one that I’ve found online. I’ve also been writing my own and posting it here. In addition, I’m restoring previously unavailable chapters of Manny fanfics posting 1 chapter a night, in addition to my informational post. I always post the fanfic chapter first, so the informational post should always be on top. Sadly if I’m short on time to get things edited, there will be gaps.

I’ve also collected links to pages that allow you to quickly find Manny Transcripts and Quotes, Manny discussion, Prose Versions of the Manny story, and I’ve put together a page (in a fit of feeling omniscient watching old clips) of Premonitions of Manny (the one from Rick and Ed’s discussion is my favorite).

I’ve started a  section of non-Manny Guiding Light video clip links. Whole pages are devoted to Joie as Teen Reva CloneMick Santos and Messe-Dresse clips. I’ve also put together a directory of major GL events that have been mentioned in my blog on the general GL Clips page.

I’ve started creating a series of WSPR news stories, I sometimes call it WSPR B Roll, these are newly created news stories. Some are from the present and some are from Springfield’s storied past. Please watch and comment.

For a listing of irregular series of posts that turn up from time read this post:
https://glmanny.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/irregular-series

Stop back soon to find out what’s new.

Disclaimer: I have absolutely no official connection to Guiding Light. I don’t own any of these characters. This page is for historical and entertainment purposes only.

Robansuefarm is the handle of one of Manny and Guiding Light‘s biggest fans following in her family’s footsteps of Guiding Light fandom since 1939. This blog is an effort to make it easy to find Guiding Light and especially Manny online. Check back here for her blog, find fanfic previews and fake WSPR newscasts on her YouTube, find podcasts that look back to old shows and audios of her fanfics on Blog Talk Radio, and finally follow her on Twitter and Facebook.

Buy the April 6 2015 issue of CBS Soaps in Depth

April 3, 2015

The April 6, 2015 issue of CBS Soaps in Depth (April 6th is the pull date so grab one off the shelf before that) has a feature article about soap operas that should come back. The feature Capitol (that was a family favorite so that my cousin named her son after Jordie Clegg – also the only reason I can tell between capitol/capital), As the World Turns, and Guiding Light.  But not only do they feature our favorite soap, but their two-page spread is very Manny/Bauer-centric. The article includes nice photos of Rick and Ed, plus my favorite Manny photo ever. Then a Reva one. So let’s support this shout out to Manny and Guiding Light by buying this issue.

Find one in grocery stores or your local magazine stand or bookstore until the 6th. Afterwards you can get it as a back issue. Find out more here:
https://ssl.palmcoastd.com/11307/apps/-173109#e

Robansuefarm is the handle of one of Manny and Guiding Light‘s biggest fans following in her family’s footsteps of Guiding Light fandom since 1939. This blog is an effort to make it easy to find Guiding Light and especially Manny online. Check back here for her blog, find fanfic previews and fake WSPR newscasts on her YouTube, find podcasts that look back to old shows and audios of her fanfics on Blog Talk Radio, and finally follow her on Twitter and Facebook.


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